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Of innocence until proven guilty.
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I mean, this is due process.
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Due process fundamental to who we are as Americans.
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It’s not a court of public opinion.
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I don’t care what the public has to say about it.
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Truth will only come out most likely court of law.
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That’s where it’s going to be most revealed.
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So that’s what we waited for.
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And we ended up being exonerated in that caucus.
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Cow eventually exonerated, of course.
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Let’s talk about the truckers, too.
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Sure.
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Because again, whether you are for these vaccines, not for the vaccines.
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If you love freedom, you’re sure as hell not for mandates, that I can tell you now.
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The mandates were they were trying to force truckers to get in.
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They were trying to force the entire country to get them.
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At one point, the truckers went out.
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They had their convoy.
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They needed money to do that.
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They were exercising their First Amendment rights.
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That’s what this country is all about.
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They raised money on Gofme and go f me.
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They had raised about $9 million.
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I understand.
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They shut them off.
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Now these guys are already in operation expressing their first member.
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Right.
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They shut them off income Jacob Wells right? Yeah.
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So what was pretty the backstory to some of that was there was actually concurrent campaigns running.
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So one of the board members of the Trucker Convoy Coalition was actually using gifts and go already for a trucker campaign called Adopt a Trucker.
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It had raised about half a million dollars.
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The other part of the team used Goethe me with tomorrow leech.
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That was the one that eventually got into the news and raised all of that money.
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But in the background was this adopted trucker campaign and it was raised about half a million dollars.
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And it was funding the whole movement because that gives them go.
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We let you get your money.
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It comes right to you as it comes in.
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So he was receiving that half a million dollars in daily payouts and he was funding the whole movement, getting the truckers.
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They needed gas, they needed food, they needed lodging, and they did amazing work.
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Whether you agree with them or not, they were out there exercising their First Amendment right.
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And without Jacob Wells, I’m going to tell you, that thing would have shut down fast, right? Oh, yeah.
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No.
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The government was pulling out all the stops and GoFundMe was capitulating right along with it when nothing was happening.
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The word on the ground and the reports coming out was this was a fun, peaceful, loving protest of people saying, hey, we’re going to stand up for our rights.
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Right.
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There was no violence.
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They actually said that in the month and a half that they were there, they saw a crime decrease significantly, almost 90% in the city of Ottawa.
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Who’s going to mess with a bunch of truckers? Right? Exactly.
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Truckers are new sheriff in town.
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They were keeping us safe.
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Jacob, we’re running out of time.
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But I got to tell you, literally, I can’t thank you enough for what you do.
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I mean, to me, being able to exercise that First Amendment right is what America is all about, and it really is.
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And without funding, many people can’t do it.
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So, Jacob, thank you so much.
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Where do people get a hold of you? The best way is just go give sendgo.com.
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Where Mobilize is very easy to get through, whether through a website, a laptop, or your phone gibsango.com.
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You can check out the About US page.
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You can find out how to reach us more there.
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And then all the social media platforms, we’re there.
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We’re through social.
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Gap, Facebook, Twitter, all of them.
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And we’re just seeing amazing growth.
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Gibson go.
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Just growing rapidly.
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I love it.
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Go check it out.
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Give send, go.
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If you’ve got a freedom.
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Love you.
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Anything that you need to fund, go to give send, go.
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They are one of us.
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They are one of us.
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Jacob Wells, thank you so much for being here.
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Thank you.
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My pleasure.
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What a guy.
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Wags.
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What a guy.
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Yeah.
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We’re talking about you as though you’re not here.
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What a guy.
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Jacob, just like you see them calling you.
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Get rid of him.
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He’s amazing.
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He is absolutely amazing guy.
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And what he did, pulling those truckers they’re fat out of the fire and allowing them to continue to go out there and fight for us.
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They were fighting for us against these instincts.
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I get it.
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Not as Paul dyker witch, though.
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How was that for a transition? That’s segue.
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Yeah.
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Ladies and gentlemen, joining us right here on Freedom of the Floor Freedom Fest 2022, one of my favorite economists.
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This is a great dude.
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He was with us for a little while yesterday.
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We didn’t have long enough.
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Paul Dykewood.
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Paul, how are you doing? Great.
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How about you, Ken? Good.
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What’s been going on this morning? I know you’ve been speaking all over the place.
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What are you up to? Well, I did a book signing, so I saved one to show the audience.
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Sold out.
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So the book is Holy Smokes.
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Golden Guidance.
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Notre Dame Championship Chaplain.
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Book.
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Website.
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Holy Smokes book.
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And that is a great place to go for my columns.
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Yeah, I do a stock column, financial.
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Right? I will.
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Thank you so much.
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I’ve got two of my favorite financial people, the same table.
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I kind of feel like I need to start getting some stock tips here.
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Right? By the way, your book, I want to show it again, holy Smokes, the forward is by Lou Holtz, who’s an amazing guy.
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We don’t have a lot of time with you today, so I want to gain some of this knowledge.
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What investment in this insane economy might be smart for people to look at right now? Well, I want to hear this from both you guys.
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One thing that I’ve written about quite a bit this year since the invasion of Ukraine has been commodities.
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Now these still are very volatile, so sometimes they’ll be overbought, oversold, but they’ve trended up quite substantially.
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So if you’ve bought commodities, whether it’s gasoline, oil, natural gas, other types of commodities, you’ve typically done well since the invasion.
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The problem is sometimes these things get overbought and then if you want to cash out, you can, you can ride it out.
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There’ll be some ups and downs.
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Lately I like defense stocks and also aerospace and I did some on space this week.
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And the advantages there are that people are going to need more replacement of munitions, machinery, some of the high tech weaponry that’s going to be required to keep Ukraine free and the Russians are going to be keep depleting their resources.
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I think they’ve gotten far more of a battle than they anticipated.
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Let’s talk about some of those commodities you mentioned earlier because I think there’s going to be a week shortage.
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It seems like there’s a lot of commodities that are out of production right now.
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What are you seeing where there’s probably going to continue to be a shortage and has the market already made up for it or is there opportunity to invest there? There’s still opportunity to invest in.
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One great example is grain.
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It’s really big block heated by Russia, and Ukraine was a big provider of grain and they’re not able to give it to give it to the customers.
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Now Russia has not been provided as much grain as possible and trying to blow blame the west for the rain not coming from that region.
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And that’s affecting people who are in famine conditions, right? So we’ve got over 100 million people, perhaps 140,000,000 people, who are in famine conditions now, and it’s going to get worse.
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Got it.
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So we could have people dying as a result of these policies that Putin is imposed along with the war that is continuing.
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What areas of the world are first effective about that? In other words, as those dominoes fall, the dominoes of famine fall, where would we stay at most effective first and then how long does it get to us? Or does it well, we’re a little bit more insulated because that we have a lot of production of grain in, of course, in America’s heartland.
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So God bless those people who are farmers and making sure that we have enough resources here so we don’t suffer as much as people, for example, in Africa who depend on the brain coming from elsewhere.
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They have problems with droughts and lack of fertile ground and sometimes they have floods and take away farmland, destroy it.
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So they have a lot more natural catastrophes to contend against and we’re blessed not to have those kinds of types of issues.
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However, doesn’t mean there’s not a problem that couldn’t result in higher prices here.
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We’re feeling inflation with that going up 9.1% over the last year highest rate in 42 years.
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So we’re going to feel that in terms of higher prices, are definitely going to be part of the reality going forward.
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Whether the government, through the Fed policies of raising rates, can curb the inflation in the months ahead, we’ll have to see those who are optimistic that we would have inflation under control and start to bring it down.
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We’re disappointed in the last what are industries we should be avoiding? Paul industries to be careful about.
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I’d say right now we want to be a little bit cautious about real estate.
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There could be a bit of a bubble with the prices perhaps going down after they’ve been escalating because interest rates are going to go up.
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People can only afford and we’re seeing contracts for Cindy right and left now because they hadn’t locked in their interest rates and they’re like, holy cow, my dollar doesn’t buy as much as it was supposed to.
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I can’t afford as much as I qualified for initially now, now that my new build is getting ready to flow.
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Right.
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And if somebody has bought a house, you have to be careful when you’re qualified for something because if everything goes up, if prices go up 9.1% overall, can you afford to keep up with your pay? Right.
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Not only with your house prices going up, if you have an adjustable rate of mortgage, but you also could have problems paying for other things.
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Yeah, totally.
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Debt ratio goes up.
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Right.
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Are we going to have a housing shortage, do you think? There’s obviously that the prices, I think, are going to drop a little bit, but it doesn’t feel like it did back in 20 08.
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20 09 is a very different dynamic.
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What I’ve noticed in covering different cycles and this is not something that we haven’t dealt with before and survive.
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But the problem is that developers will scale that now and building new properties and that will reduce the new bills and then that will sort of keep the market somewhat tightened.
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The problem is, if you’ve been used to getting a lot of buyers and then you have trouble with affordability, you don’t want to be stuck with a lot of houses that you can’t sell.
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Right.
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They’ve got to be cautious.
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So this is where the builders will often scale back production and we will find fewer new houses available.
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And as the population continues to grow, we do need more housing stock in the future.
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So there is a bit of a risk and retail inventory is increasing.
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And when there’s extra supply, what happens to prices? Right, quick question for you, for both you guys, actually, and it kind of dovetails in.
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We were talking about commodities earlier in the markets being kind of strange.
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When this slows a little bit, are we going to see the availability of lumber and things like that coming back? Are those supplies going to be replenished? Because right now it’s kind of difficult.
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I’m trying to build a house.
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It’s a little bit difficult to find supplies.
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So for cash buyers who do want our cash, people who are paying cash for the properties, if they can afford it, can you find the stuff you need? I would think that that’s going to be a chance to get things at a more reasonable price because there will be few houses being fewer new houses being built, and that could lead to somebody like you finally getting a lumber that you need.
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Right.
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And I know other people who are trying to build a backyard, for example, and need fencing, and it’s so difficult to get that right now because of supply chain problems.
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And that partially ties into the lockdowns in China.
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So when there are lockdowns and problems getting supply chain and being shipped to where they need to be, you’ve got a shortage of items.
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So hopefully you’ll be able to get that project done.
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I hope so.
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I’d have to pay a supreme price for it.
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I’ll tell you, that sleeping bag sitting outside of the grand old offer.
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He’s getting old.
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I love Nashville.
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My goodness.
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That’s right.
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Paul Dykerwitz, can’t thank you enough for being here and imparting your knowledge on us.
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I love being with two great financial minds.
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It really is great for a guy like me who’s more of a political dude and a media guy than a financial guy.
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So these are great lessons.
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Paul, where do people find you? The best way is really my book website, holy Smokes book.
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And my columns are both the dividend ones and the stock one are on the very top.
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Holysmokesbook.com yeah.
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That’s the quickest way to find my columns.
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And if you want access to my book, you can do that.
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You’ve also had a newsletter, right? Yes, I edit a host of newsletters.
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I’ll quickly mention what they are.
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Forecasting strategies written by Dr.
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Mark Scousen.
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Jim woods does successful investing and intelligence report.
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We have Bob Carlson’s Retirement Watch and monthly look at retirement issues and all the things you need to know about that.
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So those are some key ones that I’d recommend to people.
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Fantastic.
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Paul Dykewitz, thank you so much for being here.
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By the way, how do people get a hold of you? You got an email you want to put out there? The best way is to give them your personal email.
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Give me your address.
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I just give your home address.
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There’s always a market open.
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The best way is to go to my website.
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All right.
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There’s a place to put it on there.
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You got it.
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What’s the website again? Holymokespoke.com all right, Paul Dykowitz, thank you so much for being here.
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Pleasure.
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All right, well, let’s look out.
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Josh is coming in to take the mic.
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Yeah.
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This is your official Shepherd’s Hook, and Michael Cobb is coming up, from what I understand.
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Mr.
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Cobb.
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How are you? Good to see again.
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Yeah.
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Let’s get you Micked up here.
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It’s good that you’re here, because you dovetail on kind of part of an investing question that we were just finishing with Paul Dykovs, and we were talking about the real estate market.
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And when you were on the last time, we talked about not just expatriation, but how do I increase my freedom options? So we can’t have financial freedom unless we have personal, political, economic, and social freedom.
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Correct.
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So we were discussing about multiple residencies, and we were talking about international residence.
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Absolutely.
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I’m excited to hear about this and from both of you guys, because I know you study it and you’re the expert.
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Yeah.
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Been doing this for 26 years.
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We started our company 26 years ago.
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And the thing I think is so fundamental is you have residency, which is your freedom.
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Right.
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It’s your insurance, or I call it the key to get out of jail.
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Because if you don’t have a second residency, you are a prisoner of your home country.
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So that’s the first step.
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But the second step is, what do you do when you get to your new country? Where are you going to learn? I think it’s really important to be thinking about, well, maybe I want a home or a condo in a new country.
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And so that was our core business for many years.
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And because people moving overseas, obviously they want to live in their home, they need a residency.
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So now what we’ve seen is this flip flop of what leads.
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In the old days, it was the products.
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I want a house at the beach in the tropics, and I need a residency.
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Today, what we’re seeing is people saying, Holy smokes, I need my get out of jail free card here.
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I need the residency.
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And by the way, when I get there, I’m going to need a place to live.
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Right.
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So it’s been this inversion of purpose, but the same package of things that people want.
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Michael, let me ask you something.
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As we lose freedoms here in America, obviously we’re still one of the most free countries out there.
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Absolutely.
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Strange things happen during this pandemic that’s a lot of people wondering, what countries are people going to and why? What are they looking at? And where are you recommending to your clients? Sure.
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So Mexico has been a real attractor of people for decades.
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Right.
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I mean, going all the way back into the Acapulco and all the movies out of the great movie, right? So Mexico has really been this easy step for most North Americans.
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But what we’ve seen now is people kind of going past Mexico into countries like Belize, Costa Rica, Panama, even a country like Nicaragua, and then even further south and getting into South America, argentina, Chile.
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Ecuador has been a really popular country for expats many years as well.
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But we work in several of these countries.
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Belize, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, El salvador and now actually Europe to Portugal because a lot of people are looking at a European second residency.
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That’s interesting.
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I hadn’t thought about that.
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Right.
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And we listen to our consumers.
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Right.
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We try to understand what the consumer wants and then serve them with that product.
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In Europe was something that many people wanted, and so we began to offer that just very recently.
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So is it because of the Latin based languages? The more people go to those destinations, I mean, you’re listing like heavily saturated with Latin speaking contests.
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I think a lot of people I lived in Nicaragua for 14 years.
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I moved there with my wife, my two year old daughter.
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I didn’t speak any Spanish, and it was a fairly easy transition.
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But the other way is also true, where you’ve got many Latin Americans who have lived in the States or have learned English because English is their important business language.
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So moving to any of the Spanish speaking countries is fairly easy.
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What’s kind of interesting is Belize is an English speaking country and it’s British common law.
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It was British Honduras until 1981.
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And so you’ve got English is the official language common law that we’re familiar with.
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So things like property title is really easy.
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It’s fee simple title.
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Like we understand that, we get that right.
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In civil law, it’s a little bit different.
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They have Escrow Publica, which is, again, title, but it’s leasehold stuff, kind of Mexico on the coastline is leasehold.
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Right? Really? Yeah, feed a camiso.
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It’s a constitutional law.
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They don’t allow foreigners to own property within, I think, 50, 60 coastline.
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Wow, that’s interesting.
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What countries do you think offers the most freedom? In other words, if you’re going to have an escape hatch, where can you go and be reasonably assured it’s going to remain free? Yeah, I think most of the countries in the developing world would qualify, and I would say it’s not because they don’t want to be more restrictive.
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They don’t have the resources.
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Most of these countries don’t have the ability to print money like crazy to fund all kinds of stuff.
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Right.
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So they have to live within their budgets generally.
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What? Imagine that, Heather.
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I don’t know, living within the budget in the same sentence I did.
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Okay.
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And so they don’t have the means to do what the US government, maybe European governments have the ability to do, which is print money and create systems.
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So I would argue very passionately that most of these countries are much freer in many ways and will remain freer longer because the government just simply don’t have the ability to impose the kinds of things that a developed country does.
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And so then it really becomes a question of which country hits your heart.
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Right.
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We counsel people, and again, for two and a half decades we’ve been counseling people that when you make a decision about lifestyle, it’s a hard decision.
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Does it feel right.
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Do.
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I like being there.
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Do.
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I like the food.
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Am I enjoying the community of friends? Right? It’s not a head decision.
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The head decision is pretty easy.
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How do I feel about the freedom and the money and okay, that’s head.
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But how do I really feel about it when I’m there? Right.
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And that’s a big deal that sits in.
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That’s almost a tougher decision to make.
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It is.
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And it’s a longer decision.
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That home is where you become yourself.
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And is that something you see? I like that.
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Let’s talk about some of these countries that have been kind of crazy, restricted, surprisingly, during this Kobe thing.
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Australia, New Zealand, places like that.
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Are you seeing people flee those countries? Yes, our business can even in Canada, our business went up fivefold in the last two years.
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Yes.
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And for the first time ever, we have people coming out of Australia, New Zealand, Britain.
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We’ve always had Canadians, because that was an easy up down, north south transaction.
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Right.
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But, yeah, australia, New Zealand, Britain, people saying, We’ve got to get out of here.
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We actually had to write letters this is crazy.
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We actually had to write letters that they could present to the government of Australia to give them permission to leave.
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Whoa, man.
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Right.
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Is business that bad? They got to hold them in, I guess.
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I don’t know.
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And can I just touch on one thing? It’s so important when people buy property overseas.
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Coming out of the US.
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Canada, north America, right.
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We are moving from the world of seller beware, lemon laws and all the consumer protections to the land of buyer beware.
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And we as North American consumers, don’t know how to really think and react in that environment.
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We’ve created our Consumer Resource Guide, and this is a document that has 15 questions we should ask.
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We buy property overseas to get it right the first time.
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Due diligence.
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How do we do it? If folks want it, we’d love to send it to them.
00:20:37,344 –> 00:20:40,090
Actually, Michael, how do people get a hold of you? Really easy.
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It’s info@ecidevelopment.com.
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That’s our QR code.
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This is the consumer resource guide.
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Please leave a copy of that, too.
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Love to have folks request.
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This is a great dog, I got to tell you.
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Sometimes, of course, I’ve been to 70 some countries, but I’ll tell you, people who are going to buy real estate, it’s a whole different thing.
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If you’re out there and you’re just visiting or buying real estate.
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Real estate is a different thing.
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It is.
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You need to help with somebody who knows what they’re doing.
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Right.
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So we love to help folks.
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Brother, Michael Cobb.
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He’ll help you out.
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That’s it.
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Yes.
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Kent, thank you.
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Hey, thank you for being with us.
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Thank you for what you do, too.
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Absolutely exciting.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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See? Michael Cobb.
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I love it.
00:21:24,480 –> 00:21:26,222
So I think they’re coming to get your microphone.
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They’re going to get a big hook.
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They’re going to yank you off here.
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Yes.
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Where’s the shepherd’s hook? That’s right.
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I see Mark Scotland walking in here right now.
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This is going to get kind of fun, I think.
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Okay, thanks, guys.
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This is Freedom Fest.
00:21:37,862 –> 00:21:38,618
Live from the floor.
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Freedom Fest 2022.
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We’re in fabulous Las Vegas at the Mirage Hotel.
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This is day four, the final day of FreedomFest.
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Wags, where are you heading off to? All right.
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Wags is good.
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How are you? Oh, my gosh.
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What a crew.
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What a crew.
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It is so great.
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We’re being joined right now by the Skousen family.
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They’re the founders of Freedom Fest.
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Amazing, folks.
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Mark, getting to hang out with you over the last few days has been absolutely amazing value.
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And mom is here.
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Yeah.
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She finally made it out of the end of the film.
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I was there for four days and I’ve loved it.
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Now, listen, what films have you seen that you’ve loved? Because there’s been so many great ones.
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Yes, there have.
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And our audience has loved them.
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Big crowds.
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I’ve never had we do an Audience Choice Award and I’ve never had such high ratings.
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It’s out of five.
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And I think I had one film that was 3.93 and all the others have been in the fours.
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It’s been amazing.
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So we’ve had this wonderful film called The Hong Kong or the Jimmy Lie Story, the extraordinary struggle for freedom.
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And it’s about his struggle to try and keep Hong Kong free.
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That one was a very popular one.
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Our film on Clarence Thomas Created Equal.
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Beautiful film.
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Beautifully made.
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And a great story.
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Made people cry.
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We’ve had some great comedies.
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We’re Doing Good is one of my favorites.
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It’s this little web series, this young couple that are just trying to do good.
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They’re trying to recycle and everything goes wrong.
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It’s so endearing.
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So we’ve had a great time.
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I love it that did you put the film festival together? Because you were kind of like the mother hen of the whole thing.
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I do the go, too.
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Yes.
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I get all the submissions.
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I watch every single film.
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I get a lot of Iranian film.
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I am on social media in Iran right now because of this Iranian film that I have.
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Really? So we’re expanding across the globe and I watch all the films and then I make the selections.
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It’s very interesting.
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I’ve been to a million film festivals and when you’re walking the halls or you’re walking the streets if it’s a park city or whatever and you’ll hear people going, this is really good.
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Everyone was talking about all these films.
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How many did you go through? Yes, but you chose 28 winners.
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There has been no one giving that usual it was all right.
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These were great films.
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I had about 150.
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I still watched them all myself.
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There’ll come a point where I won’t be able to we chose 28 and I would say I turned away five that in any other year would have made the cut, but I just had so many, I couldn’t take them off.
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Got it.
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Was there anything off limits? I mean, this is the Freedom Fest, so, I mean, was there any type of film that was off limits, or did you I don’t like films with gore and nudity, right.
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Just because I know my audience.
00:24:33,570 –> 00:24:36,014
But it’s not so much off limits as unlimited.
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I want films about individuality choice, accountability.
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I want films about self reliance and doing what’s right and rising above oppression.
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So it’s not so much that things are off limits as there are so many themes that I do want.
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Got it.
00:24:50,976 –> 00:24:51,730
Makes sense.
00:24:51,840 –> 00:24:54,694
All right, Valerie, you’ve been running this show.
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Here the entire thing.
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Frankly, I don’t know how you do it.
00:24:59,064 –> 00:25:00,780
I really don’t know how you do it.
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He also actually works really hard.
00:25:18,430 –> 00:25:20,766
My dad always does a ton of sessions.
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He moderates a lot of panels.
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He leads a lot of sessions, and he makes sure to meet with a lot of people, too, which is really important because Freedom Theus, really is all about bringing people together to meet and have these conversations.
00:25:32,718 –> 00:25:37,934
And my dad actually is a great example of the symbol of what Freedom Fest is all about.
00:25:37,972 –> 00:25:42,494
He kind of lives it, which is a really great inspiration for all of us to look to.
00:25:42,652 –> 00:25:52,538
Mark, when you read your writing, you can tell in the way you write, the way you communicate with people, and also just the massive level of respect people have for you here.
00:25:52,564 –> 00:25:54,760
You’re kind of like you’re like a rock star here.
00:25:55,330 –> 00:25:57,400
I thought it was Gene Simmons out there.
00:25:58,750 –> 00:26:00,414
Well, maybe next year we’re in Memphis.
00:26:00,462 –> 00:26:01,314
I’ll be Elvis.
00:26:01,362 –> 00:26:03,820
Who knows? I can see that.
00:26:06,950 –> 00:26:08,730
I don’t think I can move my hips.
00:26:10,910 –> 00:26:22,470
But one of the things that we do are these debates, and we just had one that was pretty fiery about Trump, and they stole an election in 2024 and stuff like that.
00:26:22,640 –> 00:26:40,590
There was a little bit of shouting, and we had to calm people down, which is important because we want people to engage and have open minds about whatever issues it might be so important because in today’s world, everything is divisive, name calling and stuff.
00:26:40,760 –> 00:26:52,510
And if we can calm that down and be more civil to each other, right? We can disagree without being disagreeable.
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It’s the best way to put it.
00:26:54,392 –> 00:26:57,546
But we don’t want to just ignore the issues either.
00:26:57,608 –> 00:27:00,702
And I think there’s a right balance, and Freedom Festival discovered that.
00:27:00,776 –> 00:27:01,374
Well, there is.
00:27:01,412 –> 00:27:06,078
And you’ve been with us a couple of days now, popping on and off, letting us know what’s going on.
00:27:06,224 –> 00:27:15,462
But for the folks who missed it, can we go back and talk again about how you founded this and why you founded this and talk about some of the Freedom Fest over the years and then.
00:27:15,476 –> 00:27:15,738
Of course.
00:27:15,764 –> 00:27:19,314
I want to talk to all three of you about Memphis next year.
00:27:19,412 –> 00:27:33,394
So, Mark, when you got the idea to do this, how did it come about and what was the first one like? Well, I was invited to apply for the presidency of the foundation for Economic Education, or Fee.
00:27:33,502 –> 00:27:34,578
And they’re based in New York.
00:27:34,604 –> 00:27:38,574
They had a huge 34 room mansion, a long history.
00:27:38,672 –> 00:27:42,646
Oldest free market think tank, Leonard Reid, founded it and so forth.
00:27:42,718 –> 00:27:44,806
It had a great heritage.
00:27:44,938 –> 00:27:54,622
However, it had lost its way, in a sense, because Cato and Heritage and Reason and other think tanks have become more popular and well known.
00:27:54,646 –> 00:28:09,450
I said, what can we do to jumpstart B again? And I said, well, let’s have a national convention, and what better city than Las Vegas where the lights never go out, people are always engaged, and it’s very libertarian.
00:28:09,770 –> 00:28:15,270
So we did that first B Fest, as we called it, in 2002.
00:28:15,320 –> 00:28:16,950
We had 850 people there.
00:28:17,000 –> 00:28:19,230
Ben Stein was our keynote speaker.
00:28:19,730 –> 00:28:21,510
And then I left.
00:28:21,560 –> 00:28:22,160
B.
00:28:22,670 –> 00:28:26,718
I wasn’t as good as I thought.
00:28:26,744 –> 00:28:37,174
I did a good job, but I decided it was time for us to go out on our own because the Feefest was very successful.
00:28:37,222 –> 00:28:38,494
So we called it Freedom Fest.
00:28:38,542 –> 00:28:39,706
It’s for profit.
00:28:39,838 –> 00:28:43,542
Our very one as a for profit was in 2007.
00:28:43,676 –> 00:28:46,570
We had 1000 people the first time in Las Vegas.
00:28:46,630 –> 00:28:47,374
In Las Vegas.
00:28:47,422 –> 00:28:48,966
We had it in Las Vegas every year.
00:28:49,028 –> 00:28:51,598
And we always bring in some big keynote speakers.
00:28:51,634 –> 00:28:56,310
So we’ve had William Shatner, George Foreman, Kevin O’Leary.
00:28:58,490 –> 00:29:00,034
Well, this year, Pencil.
00:29:00,202 –> 00:29:01,378
We’ve had Pencilset.
00:29:01,414 –> 00:29:03,706
And this year we have John Cleise.
00:29:03,898 –> 00:29:07,126
So that has attracted a larger audience.
00:29:07,138 –> 00:29:10,074
And this year we had 2600 people show up.
00:29:10,112 –> 00:29:11,998
So it’s been very successful.
00:29:12,034 –> 00:29:14,586
And we added the Film festival about ten years ago.
00:29:14,708 –> 00:29:16,294
That’s been very popular.
00:29:16,462 –> 00:29:20,058
And we had the Libertarian Comedy Hour.
00:29:20,204 –> 00:29:23,458
I didn’t attend that, but I heard it was really comedy festival.
00:29:23,494 –> 00:29:25,306
So we want political satire.
00:29:25,378 –> 00:29:26,070
So important.
00:29:26,180 –> 00:29:33,774
Yes, and we’re always looking for ways to how can we be more expressive? And we thought comedy and satire is a great way to do it.
00:29:33,812 –> 00:29:38,310
So last year we had a little one that was a sold out event in Rapid City.
00:29:38,360 –> 00:29:41,674
And this year we wanted to really launch our Punching Up Comedy Festival.
00:29:41,782 –> 00:29:43,266
We had our first one last night.
00:29:43,328 –> 00:29:44,998
John Cleese made a special appearance.
00:29:45,094 –> 00:29:45,930
He was great.
00:29:45,980 –> 00:29:48,574
He was fantastic on stage with his daughter.
00:29:48,622 –> 00:29:49,494
Yes, that’s right.
00:29:49,592 –> 00:29:50,586
You were there for that.
00:29:50,648 –> 00:29:51,718
That’s a permanent fixture.
00:29:51,754 –> 00:29:55,210
Now, next year, we’re definitely having this is ongoing.
00:29:55,270 –> 00:30:01,520
Got the Anthem Film Festival punching up Comedy Festival from here for I’ve already had people saying how can I be on it next year? Exactly.
00:30:02,150 –> 00:30:10,510
And how did you pick the comics? Look, politics is so crazy, I know, saying that he should have been one of the comics.
00:30:10,690 –> 00:30:14,158
We have an excellent team, and we also have excellent partners.
00:30:14,194 –> 00:30:16,558
And we really rely on a lot of our partners.
00:30:16,594 –> 00:30:31,162
So we already knew some of the comics, like Lou Perez and others, and we started asking, hey, who do you know who kind of might want to be part of a libertarian comedy film festival? And they made recommendations we would reach out, and we kind of crafted.
00:30:31,186 –> 00:30:37,242
And then when we knew John Cleese was coming and we found out his daughter is also a stand up comedian, we got to get her to come.
00:30:37,436 –> 00:30:39,094
And she was absolutely fantastic.
00:30:39,142 –> 00:30:40,266
From Britain as well.
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I believe so.
00:30:41,084 –> 00:30:43,038
But she lives in California now.
00:30:43,124 –> 00:30:44,106
Okay, that was perfect.
00:30:44,168 –> 00:30:45,214
Totally Americanized.
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California.
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California girl.
00:30:47,264 –> 00:30:47,994
Please was great.
00:30:48,032 –> 00:30:49,410
We were in here last night with Please.
00:30:49,460 –> 00:30:54,910
He was at this table, did four or five different interviews, and he was just absolutely fantastic.
00:30:54,970 –> 00:30:55,662
It really was.
00:30:55,736 –> 00:31:04,242
And he was also very open with his beliefs politically about America and some of the freedoms that have been taken away that he’s seen being taken away.
00:31:04,316 –> 00:31:06,114
But he was very funny about it.
00:31:06,152 –> 00:31:09,586
How do you happen to score John, please? Because he’s an icon.
00:31:09,778 –> 00:31:11,766
Again, I have to attribute our team.
00:31:11,888 –> 00:31:19,102
Matt Day is our director of programming, and he’s someone who is a very thoughtful person, and he was the first one that suggested we have John Cleise.
00:31:19,126 –> 00:31:26,420
Jonathan doing a lot of work around cancel culture issues and the importance of expression in comedy in particular.
00:31:26,810 –> 00:31:29,874
And we like having someone a little bit outside the box.
00:31:30,032 –> 00:31:34,134
Dad always has a lot of interesting ideas about keynote speakers as well.
00:31:34,172 –> 00:31:36,920
He was the one that thought of William Shatner and others.
00:31:45,690 –> 00:31:46,654
Not heard of that guy.
00:31:46,692 –> 00:31:55,730
But I will tell you, in 2015, when he showed up standing room only and everything, half the people gave him a standing bitch, the other half sat sat on their hands so serious.
00:31:55,790 –> 00:31:57,826
He was divisive even back then.
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campaign.
00:32:06,702 –> 00:32:09,114
There was a friend of ours who was a regular.
00:32:09,222 –> 00:32:16,720
He contacted and he called us, do you like to have Donald Trump show up? And I said, well, we thought about it.
00:32:19,130 –> 00:32:32,026
That’s an important point, because we like to talk to as many people and have as many voices as we can, of course, but we are thoughtful about it because I feel like there are certain situations that you need to contextualize.
00:32:32,158 –> 00:32:33,510
And so it was really important.
00:32:33,560 –> 00:32:34,170
We asked Mr.
00:32:34,220 –> 00:32:41,982
Trump to do Q and A, and we had our Mexican friend Roberto Salina, to have him talk.
00:32:42,056 –> 00:32:44,470
And so we really look for challenge.
00:32:44,530 –> 00:32:47,206
And so it’s not that we don’t want to talk to any certain voices.
00:32:47,278 –> 00:32:50,670
We just want to make sure we’re doing it in the right way so that progress can be made.
00:32:50,720 –> 00:32:56,578
Because if you don’t just start yelling at each other or saying what they believe without listening, it really doesn’t get us anywhere.
00:32:56,614 –> 00:32:57,978
And there’s enough of that going on.
00:32:58,004 –> 00:33:03,402
So we really try to find the right way to talk to the various people with different ideas and beliefs and everything.
00:33:03,476 –> 00:33:04,146
You know, it’s amazing.
00:33:04,208 –> 00:33:18,270
It’s something I’ve seen here, and I think this really is a reflection, Mark, on you and how you corralled this amazing group of people, is that when you start with the things you agree on, it is amazing how close we all are in philosophy.
00:33:18,590 –> 00:33:22,794
Somebody could say they’re flaming far left or crazy far right.
00:33:22,892 –> 00:33:31,446
But at the end of the day, when those factions start really talking about what they agree on, there is so much more that we agree on, and that’s something that you’ve really put out.
00:33:31,568 –> 00:33:32,850
Andrew Yang here.
00:33:32,960 –> 00:33:34,002
Yeah, he was just calling.
00:33:34,076 –> 00:33:43,290
He got up there with Larry Sharpuch, the Libertarian candidate for governor of New York, and they talked about what they had in common, and you just don’t see enough of that.
00:33:43,340 –> 00:33:45,594
Frankly, we all see the same problem.
00:33:45,692 –> 00:33:49,386
The difference is that we see different solutions, but we’re all working on the same problem.
00:33:49,448 –> 00:33:55,642
And one of the things we’ve really focused on this year, we have a new arts council that we’ve created through the film festival.
00:33:55,786 –> 00:34:02,722
And one of the things we were talking about is focusing on storytelling that becomes self evident.
00:34:02,806 –> 00:34:04,726
So we’re not pushing an ideology.
00:34:04,798 –> 00:34:17,110
We’re not getting to the moral of the story or the message where the story itself touches your heart and there’s a sense of fairness and justice, and it’s self evidence.
00:34:17,170 –> 00:34:20,854
So we don’t need to say right, left, Republican, Democrat, Libertarian.
00:34:20,902 –> 00:34:22,338
It’s just real.
00:34:22,424 –> 00:34:24,966
It’s just human and bringing each other together.
00:34:25,028 –> 00:34:44,958
Mark, how do we take this format that you’ve created and put it out there in media around the country? Because literally, if more people philosophically were like you and said, why don’t we start with where we agree and work our way to the outside? First of all, no one ever gets to the outside because people love agreeing on things and they love working together on things that they do agree on.
00:34:45,044 –> 00:34:52,734
How do we take this philosophy and move it out besides just once a year, how do you get it out there in the media? Well, this is an uphill battle for sure.
00:34:52,832 –> 00:34:57,606
And believe me, this is a year long project.
00:34:57,788 –> 00:35:00,774
We could not do Freedom Pass two or three times a year.
00:35:00,812 –> 00:35:01,578
We just couldn’t do it.
00:35:01,604 –> 00:35:07,418
Can you do it just 52 weeks a year? Take off between Christmas and New Year’s.
00:35:07,514 –> 00:35:12,530
The in person aspect is actually really important, especially that is really fundamental.
00:35:12,650 –> 00:35:24,062
I think that there’s especially after going through the pandemic and we all became zoomers, I think we all realize the value of being in each other’s presence, right? And we treat each other differently.
00:35:24,146 –> 00:35:39,774
When we are with each other, there’s so much more civility, and if it escalates a little bit, there’s ways to calm each other down, and we don’t see that when we’re on social media and media, people tend to let loose and not listen and engage.
00:35:39,822 –> 00:35:48,446
So I do really feel like the in person aspect 100% is super important and we will always prioritize that over anything else.
00:35:48,508 –> 00:35:50,990
There are plenty of people who do podcasts.
00:36:00,590 –> 00:36:04,798
We have conference like this, which is, by the way, it’s not just political.
00:36:04,954 –> 00:36:05,562
That’s right.
00:36:05,636 –> 00:36:08,562
We’re philosophy, history, science and technology.
00:36:08,696 –> 00:36:11,818
Healthy living, investment.
00:36:11,914 –> 00:36:13,918
We have a three day investment conference.
00:36:13,954 –> 00:36:17,130
We have the film festival, entrepreneurship, business.
00:36:17,180 –> 00:36:19,640
We are our business section was very big.
00:36:21,050 –> 00:36:34,842
We’re a Renaissance gathering in so many ways and there’s something for everybody, especially when we come together with that common ground of let’s share with each other, let’s learn from each other, let’s grow together, let’s network together.
00:36:34,976 –> 00:36:38,286
When that’s the common goal, amazing things happen.
00:36:38,348 –> 00:36:40,386
Great collaborations have happened.
00:36:40,568 –> 00:36:42,702
I witnessed a bunch just in four days here.
00:36:42,776 –> 00:36:46,602
The other thing I want to mention is we all live busy lives.
00:36:46,736 –> 00:36:49,558
We’re all going various ways and directions.
00:36:49,714 –> 00:37:02,550
Can once a year, for three or four days, can we all come together, physically come together and learn from each other? Network, socialize and celebrate liberty and then we go home.
00:37:02,660 –> 00:37:16,254
So you can’t do it every month, every week, you just can’t, right? Once a year, could we all come together? I actually think if we do that, freedom can expand, we can turn the tide and we can be a better country because of it.
00:37:16,292 –> 00:37:16,674
I agree.
00:37:16,712 –> 00:37:20,814
And Mark, there’s a fortune being made in media by dividing the heck out of people.
00:37:20,852 –> 00:37:28,880
I mean, just keeping people divided, keeping them yelling and screaming sometimes to the point where they don’t even know what they’re yelling and screaming about, they just know the other side is bad.
00:37:29,390 –> 00:37:42,918
How do we get that message out there? That that’s ridiculous because, again, in politics as well, and that’s how they try to maintain control and that’s why it’s so important that we do come together to fight back on that.
00:37:42,944 –> 00:37:49,474
It’s so easy to just say they’re the other side and therefore we hate them, we disagree with them and therefore there’s no connection.
00:37:49,522 –> 00:37:52,602
We’re all still human beings, right? Sorry I jumped on you there.
00:37:52,796 –> 00:37:56,346
His question inspired me to say it’s not just the media thing.
00:37:56,468 –> 00:38:02,758
There is big business in media and keeping people hyped up about things and angry about things, that’s not helpful.
00:38:02,794 –> 00:38:10,798
You don’t make progress when you’re hyped up and angry, right? You make it when you feel goal oriented, focused, inspired, driven.
00:38:10,834 –> 00:38:12,138
And that’s what we focus on here.
00:38:12,164 –> 00:38:13,458
And politics is the same way.
00:38:13,484 –> 00:38:18,514
They keep us divided to keep us controlled and we want to come together as human beings.
00:38:18,562 –> 00:38:19,542
Let me ask all three of you.
00:38:19,556 –> 00:38:32,986
I mean, it seems like when you look at the vitriol and the hatred and the things that are worth people launching missiles at each side, going back and back and forth, the real satisfaction is really the warmth of knowing that you agree with other human beings and connecting.
00:38:33,118 –> 00:38:41,394
I mean, how do we get that out there? I’ve witnessed that happened here for the last four days where people who are on two totally opposite sides are not working.
00:38:41,432 –> 00:38:42,190
They’re collaborating.
00:38:42,250 –> 00:38:43,266
They’re doing things together.
00:38:43,328 –> 00:38:56,070
You know, what I’ve done over the years is I can tell which people are open to new ideas and open to change and which ones aren’t the ones who are open.
00:38:56,180 –> 00:39:00,490
I talked to about my deeper feelings, my deeper thoughts and convictions.
00:39:00,610 –> 00:39:03,186
The ones I know aren’t going to change, aren’t open to it.
00:39:03,248 –> 00:39:04,806
I talk about other things with them.
00:39:04,868 –> 00:39:09,500
And I think because of that, I’m able to maintain friendships with many people.
00:39:10,010 –> 00:39:12,814
So I think we talk about picking our battles.
00:39:12,862 –> 00:39:21,486
I think we all need to pick our friendship and know who we can talk to about our deep thing and not offend the ones who aren’t going to change their minds anyway.
00:39:21,608 –> 00:39:22,338
Absolutely agree.
00:39:22,364 –> 00:39:25,758
Well, listen, the scouts and family, you guys have led a charge on this.
00:39:25,784 –> 00:39:26,538
You really have.
00:39:26,624 –> 00:39:29,394
And what you did with the film festival I thought was great.
00:39:29,432 –> 00:39:33,102
The way you’ve handled this thing from an operational standpoint, it’s been amazing.
00:39:33,176 –> 00:39:38,278
And Mark, just your heart and soul that goes into this is indescribable.
00:39:38,374 –> 00:39:39,990
When we see you out there walking around.
00:39:40,040 –> 00:39:40,640
Yeah.
00:39:44,190 –> 00:39:45,482
Let’s talk about Memphis.
00:39:45,506 –> 00:39:47,722
That’s exactly where I wanted to go.
00:39:47,856 –> 00:39:53,014
First of all, how do you pick Memphis? We know more about that than I do.
00:39:53,172 –> 00:39:55,958
So we started looking at several sites.
00:39:55,994 –> 00:39:58,058
We decided we wanted to start swapping.
00:39:58,094 –> 00:40:01,102
We were in South Dakota last year, had a great experience.
00:40:01,296 –> 00:40:02,446
Mount Rushmore was amazing.
00:40:02,508 –> 00:40:04,114
It was a bucket list for so many people.
00:40:04,152 –> 00:40:08,878
They said, I’ve never been to Mount Rushmore, and now I have a reason to go because Freedom Fest is going to be there.
00:40:09,024 –> 00:40:14,678
And we started looking for other bucket list places and one kept coming to us, graceland.
00:40:14,834 –> 00:40:18,002
That’s a place everybody thinks they want to go to Graceland.
00:40:18,086 –> 00:40:19,454
We went and checked out Memphis.
00:40:19,502 –> 00:40:20,702
Lots of people are going to Nashville.
00:40:20,726 –> 00:40:22,366
It’s an awesome city, as you know.
00:40:22,428 –> 00:40:24,062
Yes, but lots of people go to Nashville.
00:40:24,146 –> 00:40:26,822
What about Memphis? And we are so excited.
00:40:26,906 –> 00:40:34,080
Not only is there Graceland, but the National Civil Rights Museum with a very important history that we all could do better to understand.
00:40:34,410 –> 00:40:36,362
And also the Mississippi River.
00:40:36,446 –> 00:40:37,634
Great barbecue.
00:40:37,802 –> 00:40:38,654
Beale street.
00:40:38,702 –> 00:40:39,410
Oh, my goodness.
00:40:39,470 –> 00:40:42,434
Rock and roll blues, soul, gospel.
00:40:42,542 –> 00:40:47,174
So we are going to have and the New Renaissance Convention Center is just gorgeous.
00:40:47,222 –> 00:40:49,582
We can’t wait to have Freedom Best in that.
00:40:49,596 –> 00:40:49,846
Beautiful.
00:40:49,908 –> 00:40:56,538
And the Elvis movie just gets you so excited for Memphis.
00:40:56,574 –> 00:41:02,138
The thing is, FedEx headquarters is there and all these planes fly in and fly out every day.
00:41:02,224 –> 00:41:06,590
And Fred Smith is a libertarian, so we’ve invited him to sound Roadside X.
00:41:06,640 –> 00:41:09,086
He hasn’t confirmed yet, but we hope he will.
00:41:09,208 –> 00:41:13,326
But one of the speakers who has confirmed is America’s number one historian.
00:41:13,398 –> 00:41:21,382
Now, Douglas douglas Brinkley.
00:41:21,466 –> 00:41:21,822
Wow.
00:41:21,896 –> 00:41:23,190
Douglas Brinkley.
00:41:24,950 –> 00:41:36,034
How did you score him? This guy I bought in New Orleans, and we just correspondent, and he said, I can’t wait to come.
00:41:36,192 –> 00:41:39,900
And so we’re already building our speakers and stuff.
00:41:40,590 –> 00:41:43,738
We like to choose people that normally don’t come.
00:41:43,824 –> 00:41:49,150
So that’s the idea to spread these new ideas and these new perspectives.
00:41:50,190 –> 00:41:53,534
He did a book, by the way, on Rosa Parks oh, how wonderful.
00:41:53,582 –> 00:41:55,814
And also did a book on Ronald Reagan.
00:41:55,982 –> 00:41:57,898
We have a guy who’s really broad based.
00:41:57,984 –> 00:41:59,354
Yeah, Douglas Brinkley.
00:41:59,402 –> 00:42:03,346
So is he going to come? He’s going to be hanging out with everybody or just me? Yeah, he’s that way.
00:42:03,408 –> 00:42:04,486
He’s that way.
00:42:04,668 –> 00:42:06,250
Most of our speakers hang out.
00:42:06,300 –> 00:42:07,510
Well, that’s what I was going to say.
00:42:07,560 –> 00:42:11,230
I mean, here you see the big names that are on the list.
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You’ve seen the big names here on the main stage, on the other stages.
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And if you’re here, there are thousands of people here.
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You have access to these people to actually sit and talk with them, have coffee with the we do not have a green room.
00:42:22,848 –> 00:42:24,960
Yeah, we do not have a green room.
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And I’ll tell you, Steve Forbes is kind of our classic example where he changed his schedule to attend, and he was in these sessions.
00:42:33,170 –> 00:42:36,778
He went to a session on Parkinson’s disease and stuff like that.
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These new breakthroughs in health care is available in politics and so on.
00:42:41,976 –> 00:42:49,070
And Kelly Paul, Senator Rand Paul’s wife, came in early and attended a number of sessions herself.
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That’s the kind of spirit we want, where the speakers aren’t just coming in giving a speech and then also say our attendees are also amazing in their own right.
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We have such intelligent, well informed, educated attendees.
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You’re going to meet like minded people who can teach you something, who want to learn something from you.
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It’s not a bunch of raw, raw stuff.
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We’re having such real conversations with really cool people.
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We have such cool attendees, and they’re all freedom oriented.
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This is Freedom Fest.
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But, I mean, these people are really all about freedom now.
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I hate to do this.
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Do I have ten minutes? Joshua? We got to go.
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You guys got to go.
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We got to go.
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Amazing.
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Freedom Fest 2022.
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I can’t wait for Memphis.
00:43:32,514 –> 00:43:40,550
By the way, thanks for giving us the scoop on that this morning before you announce it, maybe announce it right here on Fox Nation that Freedom Fence is going to be in Memphis.
00:43:43,370 –> 00:43:44,010
That’s right.
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By the way, Mark, talk about that.
00:43:46,100 –> 00:43:47,490
Actually, your mic is off.
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I’m going to give a phone number out here that you’ve can actually call.
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We do have a special offer I’m watching right now.
00:43:56,372 –> 00:44:04,460
Yeah, and once you talk about the offer, Valerie, if you sign up for Freedom Fest in Memphis 2023, july 12 through 15th yes.
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You get not only the special lowest price.
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You also get a special VIP meet and greet.
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It’s a really exclusive ticket worth about $250 that you’ll get free.
00:44:15,656 –> 00:44:19,926
And so Kent has the phone number so you can get that deal, and it’s only by calling this number.
00:44:19,988 –> 00:44:23,010
So I sound like an infomercial call now.
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Operators are standing by, but do call this number, and we will text to you a link.
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Again, the offer is only right now, and it’s for a discounted, a great best price ticket you can get and includes a $250 free VIP ticket to the VIP reception.
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So the number get your pen handy.
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It’s 901-665-3434.
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You notice that’s a 901 area code.
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That’s Memphis, right? 901-665-3434.
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That’s the number to call to get your tickets right now.
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Of course, I could sell out, of course, next year as well.
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So get your tickets now.
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Call that number.
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We will text you a link then to where you can go sign up and get your free VIP.
00:45:08,218 –> 00:45:09,630
Valerie, thank you so much.
00:45:09,680 –> 00:45:11,154
Valerie Durham right here.
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She’s the head cheese right here at Freedom Fest.
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And she is she and her family are best gathering.
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They’re the Rockiest of rock stars.
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I love the Scousens.
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What’s going on, baby? I missed you.
00:45:25,028 –> 00:45:30,920
Where were you? Did you see a man about a horse? Is that where you went? You know me.
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It’s a global financial summer.
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It’s got all these economic people here making money and investing in our future politically, professionally, and in liberty.
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I love it.
00:45:42,824 –> 00:45:47,838
Well, listen, I got to tell you something, wags this has been an amazing week getting to spend with you.
00:45:47,924 –> 00:45:52,822
You’re one of my favorite financial people, and, of course, getting to spend it with all the folks here at Freedom Fest.
00:45:52,846 –> 00:45:56,098
I mean, this is really an unbelievable conference.
00:45:56,194 –> 00:45:56,874
It really is.
00:45:56,912 –> 00:45:57,438
Yes.
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And I’m so fortunate.
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You know, ten years ago, I met the scalp at the New York premiere of Atlas Shrugs, and they invited me to come out.
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And so I was a guest of the Atlas Society in my very first year.
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And when I started just to walk these exhibit halls and meet these people, and I thought, oh, my gosh, I am not a lighthouse all by myself.
00:46:24,350 –> 00:46:35,358
There are actually others that think like me, and not just like, identical drinking the Kool Aid, but think independently like me.
00:46:35,504 –> 00:46:38,922
And then I got the opportunity to broadcast, and now I’m here with you.
00:46:38,996 –> 00:46:39,198
Yeah.
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I love it.
00:46:39,764 –> 00:46:40,650
I love it.
00:46:40,820 –> 00:46:49,098
What’s interesting about philosophically around America is that the media wants you to believe that there is a right side and there’s a left side.
00:46:49,184 –> 00:47:03,558
And you know what? Very shallow minded people may think that, and they may stick, they may eyeball stuck to one channel for the right wing or left wing or whatever, and they sit there and they lob these horrible, nasty flamers on social media.
00:47:03,644 –> 00:47:09,750
But at the end of the day, what the scousens put together here when they started Freedom Fest was that all of us get together.
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No matter what your philosophy is, all of us get together, and we start by talking about what we agree on.
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I got to tell you something.
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I don’t care how far left you are or how far right you are, right.
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We agree on more of the same stuff that we disagree on, and we don’t really realize it because we get so polarized with some of these topics, which, granted, are valuable to different people at different economic levels at different times in their lives.
00:47:35,888 –> 00:47:46,678
I mean, think about all of the folks that were the hippies of the they’re the new conservatives, right? So it’s a pendulum, and it kind of swings back and forth.
00:47:46,714 –> 00:47:56,994
And depending on where you are in life and your social status, your professional status, your career, all of those things play into what’s different to you throughout your life.
00:47:57,092 –> 00:48:06,978
Right? And the thing that I like so much about Freedom Fest is it is about what you can do when you come together.
00:48:07,064 –> 00:48:08,530
It’s not about agreeing.
00:48:08,590 –> 00:48:11,446
It’s about let’s talk about those tough topics.
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Right? Let’s consider all sides.
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Bring your best game to the table.
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I’m going to bring my best game, and you bring yours.
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And have all of these best games in here so we can come up with something that is mutually beneficial for the most amount of people with the least amount of sacrifice.
00:48:31,762 –> 00:48:39,358
And you can’t do that if you are unwilling to have the conversation or feel unsafe to have the conversation.
00:48:39,514 –> 00:48:43,220
And the more we cancel culture, the more tribal is we become.
00:48:43,550 –> 00:48:47,970
The more labeled we throw on people, the less likely that is to happen.
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And Freedom Fest says, leave all that garbage at the door.
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Bring you your values and your philosophy, and let’s see where we meet, and let’s work on those areas where we disagree.
00:48:58,114 –> 00:48:58,410
Yes.
00:48:58,460 –> 00:49:18,882
And I got to tell you folks at home, is there somebody that you just this almost sounds like a TV preacher, but is there somebody back over one of your friends or somebody that’s been a friend for a long time that you think you philosophically disagree on and you see those nasty social media posts one side of the other, right or left or whatever? I challenge you.
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I will tell you, I love doing this.
00:49:20,732 –> 00:49:24,726
I challenge you to grab a cup of coffee with them and talk about what you agree on.
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I mean, I got to tell you, we really do.
00:49:27,260 –> 00:49:33,882
At the end of the day, as Americans, we agree on so much more, so much more than we disagree on.
00:49:33,896 –> 00:49:38,838
I wrote a book a couple of years ago, best selling book called The Common Sense 80%.
00:49:38,984 –> 00:49:44,360
And you have some far right on the left, on the right.
00:49:45,050 –> 00:49:54,270
You know what I’m talking about? I think you get punch drunk in there, right? But at the end of the day, 80% of us agree on over 90% of the same stuff.
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Think about it.
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Who doesn’t want truth? Who doesn’t want honesty? Who doesn’t want justice? Who doesn’t say, let me do what I want and you can do what you want.
00:50:02,600 –> 00:50:04,086
Nobody wants to be told what to do.
00:50:04,148 –> 00:50:04,410
True.
00:50:04,460 –> 00:50:07,074
And not many people really want to tell others what to do.
00:50:07,112 –> 00:50:10,254
If we’re completely honest, we’re self absorbed in our own lives.
00:50:10,352 –> 00:50:11,286
Yeah, very true.
00:50:11,348 –> 00:50:16,582
And at these parties, they use the divisiveness to raise money, and so do the media outlets.
00:50:16,606 –> 00:50:19,846
They use the devices to make money to get their audience.
00:50:19,918 –> 00:50:22,858
And at the end of the day, Americans like the camaraderie.
00:50:22,894 –> 00:50:24,570
They like a greening on things.
00:50:24,740 –> 00:50:26,360
They love loving each other.
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And those big issues, those huge issues that you see that are being argued upfront, those are issues that are probably not going to get solved anyway.
00:50:34,412 –> 00:50:36,018
So let’s start with where we agree.
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And that’s what Freedom Fest is all about.
00:50:37,832 –> 00:50:38,578
It’s about freedom.
00:50:38,614 –> 00:50:39,610
It’s about the First Amendment.
00:50:39,670 –> 00:50:41,662
The Second Amendment? It’s about the Constitution.
00:50:41,746 –> 00:50:47,410
It’s about our rights as Americans to be able to live in the freest country on the planet.
00:50:47,530 –> 00:50:48,200
Right.
00:50:49,310 –> 00:50:56,410
I want to give you a personal thank you because it’s been such an honor to work with such a legendary broadcaster.
00:50:56,470 –> 00:51:10,038
Well, me working with you, that’s the legendary, because I followed you for so many years, and you’re one of the greatest financial journalists that are out there and one of those folks that is not a bunch of BS that flies over your head.
00:51:10,124 –> 00:51:20,070
You have practical, everyday, common sense financial advice for people, and you go to areas where the big networks will not go, yet your audience is as big as theirs, which is what I love.
00:51:20,180 –> 00:51:21,726
Thank you for saying that.
00:51:21,908 –> 00:51:26,190
Yes, it’s an honor to be able to pass the torch on to others.
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And like I always say on my show, you can’t have financial freedom unless you have personal, political, social, and economic freedom.
00:51:33,526 –> 00:51:48,018
And if you have just experienced Freedom Fest only on Fox Nation, I encourage you to visit our website@freeomfest.com, look at all the different speakers, go through all of the great programs that we have available.
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We have 10 seconds.
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Do come and see us with Wagon XC or on TV.
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This is Freedom Fest.
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2022 live.
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I cut you off in the middle of a roll.